jesus fing christ http://www.prevention.com/cda/feature2002/0,2479,s1-7342-P,00.html My gut reaction would be to slap that pharmacist in the face. I think people honestly don't understand the impact that zero control over their childbearing does to the women of a society, and therefore to that society overall. Motherfucks. Jesus christ, man, do they hide under the bed when there's a lightning storm so Jesus doesn't Strike Them Down? Where does the superstitious bullshit stop? At what point does the Invisible Pink Dragons argument stop being a laughable rhetorical device and start being somebody's personal fucking creed? i don't know but you know this country just doesn't need to make room for those kind of fuckers god they make me mad mad doesn't even begin if i was a woman i think i'd have started an anti-fundie army by now with grenades and camoflauge no shit grrr you know if these people want to keep hiding from the rain instead of using umbrellas they can well fucking move to some place where people make a habit of it the middle eas t see how they like constant raving fucking fundies being around in full force it works well there haha major argument with rich well discussion rich believes all opinions have equal merit my position is that some opinions (eg the pill is wrong and women should be prevented from getting it) have less merit and while fundie mfers are certainly welcome to hold flat earth views that doesn't make it _right_ agreed I think the argument can be made that all frames of value are relative, but you have to pick a frame before you can argue the merits of any given idea. hah we can't ever get to an agreement on this i am always just because it's THEIRs...which they're certainly entitled to doesn't make it right and then we go in circles agh Meaning, within the frame of "Longer, healthier life, better education, more opportunities for careers other than childbearing is to be desired" within that frame, the fundie idea is unsupportable indeed but within the frame of "Every act of your life should be a sanctification of God's work in His eyes, and if that conflicts with more utilitarian needs, then utility must suffer" it's just the right opinion to have. Of course that frame is fucking stupid. heheh And the subset of people who live in that reference frame is very, very small. The rest of the people who buy the "pill is abortion" argument don't have the courage to stand by what they believe - They want it both ways. "Oh, I'm a doctor and a scientist and a woman who has benefitted personally and professionally from growing up in a society that values my possible contribution as a person, not just a mobile womb" plus "God Scares Me! I Don't Want To Go To Hell!!1" * mikej has no sympathy. Pick a side. haahaha indeed i guess i just dont either (have any sympathy) they can hide in caves all day til it stops raining for all i care i like umbrellas Umbrella Lovers Unite!